The Booze Ban And Your Rights

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Our friends at FreePB.org have compiled a primer on the current status of beach booze laws and your rights on the beach. It's a good read for anyone concerned with the slow erosion of rights and how to enforce the ones remaining.


Enjoy your summer by knowing your rights

With the beach season in full swing, we have heard many troubling stories and had many questions about park and beach laws. Here is what you need to know to protect your rights.

First is a list of city parks that still allow responsible adults to enjoy a beer with their barbecue

Legal parks to enjoy your freedom

...and the municipal code to prove it


Alcohol at the Beach or Bay

Police will enforce consumption or possession of an opened alcohol beverage using San Diego Municipal Code 56.54 or CA Business and Professions Code 25620. It is not illegal to possess unopened containers or to possess opened alcoholic beverage containers for the purpose of recycling or other related activity.

Police officers cannot order you to pour out sealed containers of alcoholic beverages merely for possessing them. They may request that you pour out the remainder of an alcoholic beverage if you are consuming it (breaking the law).


The 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

It is also our understanding that without probable cause or a search warrant, police may NOT execute a search of your possessions at the beach. This includes sniffing your beverage. If an officer performs a search without consent, you are entitled to know what they considered probable cause. If they ask for permission and you don't want someone's nose in your soda, simply say, 'NO'.


Can I Drink in The Water?

It is now illegal to consume alcoholic beverages in many coastal parks, the beach or on any land area of Mission Bay. The City of San Diego has defined the boundary line between land and water in Mission Bay Park is the mean high tide line. Based on the following documents it seems clear that is not illegal to consume alcoholic beverages below the mean high tide line, however, police and lifeguards have said they will ticket anyone touching sand, whether below the mean high tide line or not. So feel free to float in your inner tube, but please be safe.

September 1988 Memorandum of Law

Excerpt from Mission Bay Park survey report

Mission Bay Park survey maps

Note that Mission Bay Park has been divided into five zones where the mean high line differs based on the tidal flow.

Also note that the mean high tide line is a vertical measurement above sea level. Most tide tables measure the tide above mean lower low water. This website allows you to select the correct datum.

Link to NOAA tide website


Private Property

It is not illegal to consume alcoholic beverages on residential private property. It is perfectly legal to consume alcoholic beverages in your front yard regardless of whether it is fenced or not. Keep in mind that the sidewalk is public property.


Draconian Enforcement Issues?

If you have a dispute with a police officer regarding any of these laws or any other laws, do not force the issue, simply request to speak with a superior officer. If you have the same problem with a sergeant, ask to speak with a lieutenant.

If you feel your rights are being violated or observe a violation of others, please take photos, videotape the incident and send us your story. You can also contact:


The Chief of Police

The Mayor's office

The City Attorney's office

The Union-Tribune Editorial department

The Beach & Bay Press Editorial department

KUSI News

...and if you'd like to contact your City Councilperson, here's a link to their site.


Stay tuned for even more information about your beaches and parks.

Enjoy your summer responsibly

Sincerely,

Your friends and neighbors at FreePB.org


Disclaimer

Nothing in this e-mail is meant to constitute legal advice. If you have specific questions about the applicability of any law, we suggest you consult a private attorney.

 

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thanks for the list of parks!

thanks for the list of parks!

does this really work? can

does this really work? can you really take a float out to the bay and expect to be ok?

Yes, you can put your keg on

Yes, you can put your keg on a small inflatable boat, take it in the water and drink from it. Why? For the same reason you are able to drink on your boat in Mission Bay. Coastal waters are State of California from the Mean High Tide line down and out to sea. City law and property laws do not extend beyond that line. If you want to see a recent application of these laws check out the case about public access to the beaches in Malibu where the city and property owners lost and had to give the public access to the beach up to the mean high tide line. Despite that, cops will likely bust you if you are standing in the water with a beer in your hand. They have said that they will bust people if they are touching sand. If you are legitimately in the water and below the line the ticket will not stand as you are not in the city of San Diego at that point and city law does not apply but that does not mean the city will not ticket you. They have to make it appear that they are handing out tickets because to people that don't know about this it will appear that they are not enforcing the law.
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Same thing applies to the

Same thing applies to the ocean-side of San Diego? Since there are waves could the lifeguards cite you for endangering yourself or others?

Oh get over the obsession to

Oh get over the obsession to drink booze on beaches. It is time to move on. Drinking alcohol on the beach does not improve the enjoyment of any activities one can do on the beaches. The small group of irresponsible, arrogant,belligerent, loud and obnoxious drunks will always be ready to spoil the experience for all the others who don't want or need to drink on the beach and adjacent areas. The beach environment is much better since the alcohol ban. The businesses are full and more people of all ages are coming back, instead of the usual over-abundance of young boozers intent on getting drunk and stupid.

i know i am moving on...

i know i am moving on... this ban expires january 2009. im moving onto next year

Its not an obsession, its a

Its not an obsession, its a freedom. There is already a law against being belligerent or drunk. Also a law against being loud, obnoxious, and littering. We do not need to take everyone's rights away because a few KIDS don't respect the beach, the people who live there, or the people around them. I do agree that its great not having all the kids intent on getting drunk. Drinking does not improve my activities at the beach. Drinking on OUR beach is an activity in its self I enjoy. I do miss relaxing to a cold beer, feel of the sand in my toes, and the sound of the ocean.

Ok I'm going to have to

Ok I'm going to have to agre with FLipFlop here and say this is not about an obsession its about freedom. I miss being able to walk down to the beach and have a beer or a Cigar. I never once left trash and would always be as respectful of others as i could be. There are plenty of laws on the books to keep people from getting rowdy if they are not going to enforce those laws why allow them to pass more. This is a country that was founded on FREEDOM there was no vote by the people of Pacific Beach to see if they wanted to allow drinking on their beaches because the last times this came up they lost. As residents of PB we knew when we moved here what the town was like and choose to stay either inspite of or because of what PB is.

 

I will say that you were free to do the same thing i did when people around me got to drunk and obnoxious for my liking and that is to get up and walk to a more quiet area. Just because you are to lazy to do the same does not give you the right to attempt to take the right of everyone else to enjoy the beach as they see fit. This is America brutha not 1930's Germany.  I suggest you educate yourself on what this country was founded on and the founders purposes for setting up the gov't the way they did.  Have a dandy day

is it legal to drink on

is it legal to drink on fiesta island if you are sitting inside your motorhome drinking?

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